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David Gilmour : Interview with Rolling Stone on Why He’s Selling 120 Guitars: ‘Everything Has Got to Go
More than half a century after he joined Pink Floyd, David Gilmour will be auctioning off about 120 of the iconic guitars he played both with the band and on his solo releases. “Everything has got to go,” he jokes. “It’s the spring sale.”
The instruments that will be on the auction block at Christie’s New York headquarters this June include many of his signature instruments. He’ll be selling the Black Strat — a guitar he played on “Money,” “Shine On You Crazy Diamond” and “Comfortably Numb” and enough other songs that it has amassed a legacy worthy of its own book — as well as his Stratocaster with the serial number 0001, the 12-string he wrote “Wish You Were Here” on and the Ovation six-string he’s played “Comfortably Numb” on at almost every live performance he’s done.
“These guitars have been very good to me,” he tells Rolling Stone on a phone call from his home in England. “They’re my friends. They have given me lots of music. I just think it’s time that they went off and served someone else. I have had my time with them. And of course the money that they will raise will do an enormous amount of good in the world, and that is my intention.”
The auction’s proceeds will benefit Gilmour’s charitable foundation, which he’s been running for decades. “The money will be going to the larger needs of famine relief, homelessness and displacement of people throughout the world,” Gilmour says, adding that the charities are both global and U.K.-centric. “We are going to work on the best way and the best balance of making what this raises do as much good on this planet as it can.”
In addition to helping out those less fortunate than him, Gilmour sees the sale as a matter of cleaning house. In fact, he’s been planning on selling of chunks of his collection since at least around 1987’s A Momentary Lapse of Reason but hasn’t gotten around to it. “I didn’t want to get too ancient and have a whole stash of guitars sitting around doing nothing,” he says. “And frankly, too many of them are guitars I just don’t have time to play often enough. They will give joy to other people.”
What sparked the idea to sell these guitars? Were you just looking around a room and you thought, “There are too many of them”?
This is something that’s been creeping up on me for quite a long time. I started a process before, and I’ve ducked out a couple of times. This time, it is going to happen. I’m both sad with losing some of the instruments and relieved to get this thing dealt with and that it will be doing some good. If I need a particular guitar, I’ll go out and buy another one. They are the tools of my trade. They have given me music, but in the end, they are the tools that I use.
You’re selling around 120 guitars. What percentage of your collection is that?
To be honest, I don’t know. There are a few remaining. There are some that I am going to hang onto, either because they have been duplicated or because they are ones that I can’t physically bear to part with. So I guess I’ll probably be keeping 20 guitars.
I take it you’re not superstitious about having “the right guitar” for a certain song?
Guitars are special in what they give you, but I’m not overly sentimental about the qualities that some people think become imbued in one particular instrument itself. The guitars that I play on a lot tend to be the ones that are closest.
Let’s talk about the Black Strat. That has to be a hard one to say goodbye to.
You know something? For me, I can let go of it. It’s going to bring a lot of people to have a look at this sale, and it’s going to do that job. It’s a lovely guitar. It has been on pretty much all the Pink Floyd albums through the Seventies. It’s on Meddle, Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals, The Wall. I did my “Comfortably Numb” solo on it. The notes for the beginning of “Shine On You Crazy Diamond” fell out of it one day. It’s on so much stuff, but Fender have made replica ones that they sell, and I have two or three of those that are absolutely perfect. One of those might be my future guitar of choice or even, horror of horror, maybe I’ll even change the color.
What is the history of the Black Strat?
It’s a 1969 Strat, which I bought at Manny’s on 48th Street in New York in 1970. I have done dozens of modifications to it. I’ve changed the neck a couple of times. I’ve drilled holes in it and done all sorts of weird things to it. But the color is the one thing I’ve never changed. It was always black.
Since you modified it so much, when did you get the sound out of it that you wanted?
I change it then I change it back. I added a little switch in it so I could get a pickup configuration that you can’t get on a normal Strat, which is the neck and bridge pickup together. It’s something you can do on a two-pickup guitar. It has sort of the signature sound of a Fender Jazzmaster or a Jaguar.
What songs or solos can you hear that pickup configuration on?
You know something? That Jazzmaster sound was something I always craved and wanted to use, but I don’t think I’ve ever actually really used it on anything. It was experimenting, trying things out. It did what I wanted it to do: It achieved this different sound and, strangely, in the end I scarcely used it.
What else did you do to the guitar?
At one point I drilled a huge hole out of it and put an XLR socket in it, for some mad reason, which I then got rid of and refilled in again. All these little modifications. I shortened the tremolo arm on it because it suited the way I wanted to be playing a little bit better. I’ve used it as a workbench really for trying out all sorts of different things over the years.
You retired the Black Strat for part of the Eighties and the Nineties when you donated it to the Hard Rock Cafe. Why did you do that?
I bought one or two other guitars from Fender. I went to their warehouse here in England and tried out 20 Stratocasters, and I think I bought four to keep me covered for anything I might need. I think around the time of Live 8 in 2005, I thought I would go back to the Black Strat for a little while, and I got it back from the wall at the Hard Rock Cafe somewhere. I had lent it to them for a long time. I started using it again. I used it on my more recent solo albums.
What attracted you to Stratocasters in the first place?
My boyhood dream was to have a Stratocaster like Hank Marvin in the Shadows had. It was the guitar I always wanted. Lots of other players came along who did nothing but submit to that. Hendrix wasn’t bad on a Strat. It was the guitar of my dreams. When I could afford one, I got one. My first Fender, though, was a Telecaster that my parents bought me for my 21st birthday.
Do you still have that one?
No, I shipped it to America in about 1970, maybe ’68, I can’t quite remember, but TWA shipped it and lost it. I never saw it again. That’s amongst the lost and stolen guitars in my life, of which there are a few. Not too many.
You’re selling your “Number One” Strat, with the 0001 serial number. You bought that one from your guitar tech in the mid-Seventies?
That’s right. He bought it and then I strong-armed him out of it, really. That one’s got to go. It’s a really beautiful instrument. I used it to play the rhythm guitar on “Another Brick in the Wall,” but I don’t think I used it that often. It always felt a little bit more delicate than other guitars, and I didn’t want it to get beaten about with my going on the road, so it’s never been on a tour.
It sounds almost too precious to play.
I don’t think any of them are too precious to play. I play it a lot, and I have it at home most of the time. It’s also on a track called “Mihalis” on my first solo album. There’s sort of a tribute to Hank [Marvin] moment on that track, which I used that guitar for.
You played a ’55 Gibson Les Paul on “Another Brick in the Wall, Part 2.” Are you selling that one?
Yes. I bought that in about ’78, because I wanted a nice Les Paul but with P-90 pickups; I like those more than I care for humbuckers. On The Wall, we plugged that through the desk direct — not through an amplifier — so it’s a direct-injected sound straight onto tape during the solo. Then, because we decided it needed a little bit of beefing up, we played it back out through the studio and through an amplifier and remixed it to add a little bit of weight and edge to it.
You’re selling the Martin D-35 that you used on Wish You Were Here. I believe that’s one you never wanted to tour with.
Yeah. To take it on the road in the modern age where the drums and bass and everything are hammering away, you’d have a really difficult time amplifying it. You would have to have electronics built into it, and I really didn’t want to mess around with it. It’s such a nice guitar that it really would be bad karma to muck about with it, so you could take it on the road. I didn’t ever want to do that.
When did you get it?
I bought it in New York in ’70 off a guy in the street outside Manny’s in order to do “Grantchester Meadows” at the gigs we were performing that week. I can’t remember why I needed another guitar — I don’t know if one got lost — but we needed it for that, since it’s a quiet, acoustic-type of song with nothing in the way of drums or anything.
You’re also selling the guitar you wrote “Wish You Were Here” on?
I wrote that on a 12-string Martin. I bought it off a friend of mine in about ’72 or ’73, I guess. It’s also in the sale. I wrote “Wish You Were Here” one day in the control room of Number Three Studios at Abbey Road. That riff dragged itself out of that guitar, and it became “Wish You Were Here.” It didn’t go on the road either. By about ’75 or ’76, we got Ovations that had built in electronics that were very good live. They didn’t feed back too badly. One of the Ovations, the one which I restrung to a self-invented high-strung tuning, became the guitar that I wrote “Comfortably Numb” on. That one is also going in the sale. I think it’s been played on pretty much every live version of “Comfortably Numb.”
Are you selling the 1955 Fender Esquire, on the cover of About Face, that you’ve dubbed “The Workmate”?
The Workmate isn’t going. I’m afraid I couldn’t do it.
Is the Workmate your go-to guitar these days?
When I’m in the studio room, the Workmate is the one that I will often pick up or a Black Strat [replica]. I’ve got one or two of my own more recent Fender-issue Black Strats, which are brilliantly good, and I’m happy when they hop into my fingers. Sometimes I can’t even tell whether I’m playing the first original one or these other ones.
But I’m much more commonly on acoustic guitar when I’m in my home. I might have a couple of acoustics sitting around, but the electrics I tend not to play in the house. I’ve got a very nice, nylon-strung guitar that I’m playing quite a bit and my daughter plays. I’ve got a very nice guitar that my wife bought for me that was built by Me&Ro in America [a Me&Ro Ebony Anniversary Guitar]. It’s a very lovely guitar.
Will you be including anything other than guitars in the auction, like your Big Muff foot pedals?
I don’t think there’s a Big Muff in there. But maybe there are a couple of amps.
What does your family think of you purging all these instruments?
I think that they, like me, are very happy that they will do good. The proceeds of this sale will do a lot of good in the world, and we’ll be able to do something positive in this rather negative world we’re living in.
The guitars here will be benefiting your foundation. When and why did you start it?
I think it goes back to the Seventies, maybe the Eighties; it developed out of another one I had before. I’m not sure. I’ve been very lucky in life. I have been very successful artistically and financially. I have felt many, many years ago that I should do something to do a little bit of good with my good fortune. This will be another huge boost to what our capabilities are.
How much money do you hope to raise?
You know something? I haven’t given that a second’s thought. I haven’t got a clue. I’m sure there will be people who look at what is going to be sold, and they will do some guesses on sums. But I’m not going to be that person.
Are you worried people will see you selling all these instruments and think you’re retiring?
I’m neither retiring nor particularly planning things at the moment. I’m sure I’ll get around to something one of these days, but it’s a big commitment.
Have you been writing new music?
I write all the time, which is to say that I come up with a little phrase in my head or on the guitar or piano and jot them onto my phone and log them all up later. And then I think, “I’ll listen to those one day and see if anything appeals to me.” That’s where the process will start next time.
When do you know it’s time to make a new album?
It doesn’t really quite work like that for me. I just start going into my little studio room and playing around with these things. Sometimes I’ll build up a drum track on machines and start turning these little demos into something slightly more substantial, and then they go through two or three levels of building them up until they start sounding like a song. When I have enough things that have started sounding like songs, I’ll make a decision about when or how to make an album. It’s like pushing a snowball down a hill: It gradually gathers momentum.
What kind of music has been coming to you lately?
It’s very hard to talk about the writing process and how I record and use little snippets. Sometimes I’m hearing a piece of music as it’s playing on the radio or on television, and I record 10 seconds of it, just for a little particular thing and rhythm or something attracts me. I will go back to that little moment to say, “What was it about this that attracted me and what can I … not steal, but pay homage to or extract a feeling from it.” Most of [the ideas] are things strummed on acoustic guitar or plunked on a piano. Ninety percent of them, I will not understand why on earth I jotted them down and recorded them, but I have several hundred of them. I’ll find something good in there.
It sounds like you’re too curious about music to retire.
Retiring is not a hard and fast thing for me in my life. I don’t really have to retire. I don’t have to say those words. I don’t have to state that have retired or anything like that. If I retire, it will be a quiet, unnoticeable process at some point. But I’m not at that moment.
Do you look at this auction at all as closing a chapter on Pink Floyd or the past?
I don’t. I don’t think I do that. I will obviously be sad to be losing some of these instruments, but I will also be slightly relieved at losing the weight of having all these instruments and not knowing what is going to happen to them or where they’re going to go. I want them to move on. I’ve been their custodian for a number of years and now it’s someone else’s turn to have them and use them, to create with them.
David Gilmour’s legendary ‘Black Strat’ comes to auction
Christie’s to auction more than 120 guitars from the personal collection of the Pink Floyd singer and songwriter, including the iconic Fender Stratocaster played on The Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals and The Wall
David Gilmour’s 1969 Black Fender Stratocaster has earned its place in rock’n’roll history. Known as ‘The Black Strat’, the guitar was purchased in 1970 at Manny’s on West 48th Street in New York, and has become the Pink Floyd singer and songwriter’s most identified instrument over the course of nearly 50 years.
Between 1970 and 1986, The Black Strat was Gilmour’s primary performance and recording guitar, and was key to the development of the Pink Floyd sound. It was played in the recordings of landmark albums such as the 1973 masterpiece The Dark Side of the Moon, which includes the track Money and is widely regarded as one of the greatest LPs of all time; Wish You Were Here (1975), featuring the track Shine on You Crazy Diamond, which Gilmour reveals ‘came out of’ The Black Strat; Animals (1977); and The Wall (1979), which features Gilmour’s legendary guitar solo on Comfortably Numb.
The Black Strat, which has been extensively modified over the decades to accommodate Gilmour’s evolving style and performance requirements, can also be heard on his critically acclaimed solo albums including David Gilmour (1978), About Face (1984), On an Island (2006) and Rattle that Lock (2015).
On 20 June at Christie’s in New York, this iconic, solid-body electric guitar (estimate: $100,000-150,000) will be a highlight of The David Gilmour Guitar Collection, which comprises more than 120 instruments and focuses on a selection of his preferred Fender Broadcasters, Esquires, Telecasters and Stratocasters. Not only the largest and most comprehensive sale of guitars ever offered at auction, the collection details the musical history of one of the world’s most influential guitarists. All proceeds from the sale will benefit charitable causes.
‘Many of the guitars in this sale are guitars that have given me a tune,’ says Gilmour in our short film, in which he plays for us a few chords from his best-loved songs on the guitars that helped to inspire them. ‘So a lot of them have earned their keep, you might say.
‘These guitars have given so much to me, and it’s time for them to move on to other people who hopefully will find joy, and perhaps create something new.’
After a period of temporary retirement while it was on semi-permanent loan to the Hard Rock Café in Dallas, Texas — in return for a donation to The Nordoff-Robbins Music Therapy Charity — Gilmour reclaimed The Black Strat for Pink Floyd’s historic reunion concert at Live 8 in London on 2 July 2005.
During the first two days of rehearsals for the Hyde Park gig Gilmour had been playing a different guitar, a red Stratocaster. On the third day, it was suggested he should try The Black Strat, since he had used it on the original recordings of songs to be performed.
The concert, which was watched by an estimated global TV audience of more than three billion people, marked the moment that the instrument was reinstated as Gilmour’s guitar of choice. It remained so for the next decade, reaffirming its place in the annals of rock music.
Another important guitar offered in the June sale is Gilmour’s 1954 White Fender Stratocaster #0001 (estimate: $100,000-150,000). Gilmour acquired ‘The #0001 Stratocaster’ in 1978 and it has been used on several recordings including Another Brick in the Wall (Parts 2 and 3).
Additional collection highlights include a 1955 Gibson Les Paul, famous for Gilmour’s guitar solo on Another Brick in the Wall (Part 2) (estimate: $30,000-50,000), and an incredibly rare Gretsch White Penguin 6134, which was purchased for his private collection (estimate: $100,000-150,000).
Further Fender highlights include the 1957 ‘Ex-Homer Hayes’ Stratocaster, with gold-plated hardware and finished in the rare custom colour of Lake Placid Blue (estimate: $60,000-90,000), and a Candy Apple Red 1984 Stratocaster 57V (estimate: $15,000-25,000), which became Gilmour’s primary electric guitar during the 1980s and ’90s, and was used during recording and touring of the Pink Floyd albums A Momentary Lapse of Reason (1987) and The Division Bell (1994).
An additional draw for collectors and aficionados will be an exceptionally early 1954 Stratocaster (estimate: $50,000-70,000), which is believed to be one of a group of Stratocasters produced by Fender prior to its commercial production release in October 1954.
Gilmour’s early musical influences included the Everly Brothers and Bob Dylan, and reflecting this the collection also offers several acoustic guitars. Examples include a 1969 D-35 Martin purchased on the streets of New York in 1971, and used as both Pink Floyd and David Gilmour’s main studio acoustic, notably on Wish You Were Here (estimate $10,000-20,000); a Gibson J-200 Celebrity (1985) acquired from John Illsley of Dire Straits (estimate $3,500-5,500); and a unique Tony Zemaitis (1978) custom acoustic bass guitar (estimate $15,000-25,000).
A global tour of the collection will launch in London at Christie’s King Street (27-31 March), where the full collection will be on display. Highlights will then go on view in Los Angeles (7-11 May) before the New York sale preview (14-19 June). Sennheiser will be providing the sound experience at all the pre-sale exhibitions.
Richard Wright & Dave Harris – Zee “Identity” Deluxe Box Set Now Available For Pre-order
Zee feat. Pink Floyd’s Rick Wright & Fashion’s Dave Harris “Identity” Deluxe Box Set Includes Signed Remastered CDs & Posters
London – One of the most intriguing pop music partnerships of the eighties makes it’s return – Richard Wright, one of the founder members of Pink Floyd and who played keyboards on their multi-million selling albums joined forces with Dave (formerly Dee) Harris, best known to music fans as the former singer and guitarist with electro-funk band Fashion. The two, collectively known as Zee’s version of their album, Identity is to be released this year. The album which was recorded at Wright’s home studio and Utopia Studios in North London in 82 / 83, utilizes the Fairlight Computer, which has the ability to recreate the sound of any musical instrument.
The new partnership was born out of a Greek holiday that Rick Wright had in 1981. It was there that he met Raf Ravenscroft the well-known saxophonist session musician whose playing graced Gerry Rafferty’s huge hit “Baker Street.” “Raf was interested in forming a band, and we got talking in the way musicians do,” Rick said. “When we got back to England we met again, along with several other musicians, including Dave Harris. We had some rehearsal time at a studio in Battersea but we weren’t getting anywhere, mainly because no one had any material.”
At that time Dave Harris has just left Fashion – “I supposed you could put it down to the usual ‘musical differences’ – and was looking for fresh ideas. My decision to leave Fashion was good for both the band and myself, but I really needed to work with someone so that we could bounce ideas of each other,” Dave says. “It became more and more obvious that Rick and I would work well together, and eventually that is what happened. The other guys who had been initially involved understood that too, and in the end it was Rick and myself writing together.”
Rick and Dave started working on the “Identity” album as far back as September 1982, initially at Rick’s small studio in the country, before moving on to Utopia six months later to do the overdubs.
Unfortunately certain legal problems had to be ironed out first – and then there was also the question of mastering the Fairlight: “We spent hours and hours just experimenting with it at first,” Rick recalled.
“The great thing about the Fairlight is that every time you go back to it you learn something else. We had to get control over it though because it would have been very easy just to have ended up making funny noises. We spent several weeks sequencing and scripting everything but it was all worth it in the end.”
He added “For me it is exciting working with Dave because there were things that he was doing that I had not done before and vice versa. I think that Zee has given us musical opportunities that quite frankly neither of us were able to explore in our previous groups.”
Dave Harris says, “When we started recording it, we didn’t have any pre-conceived ideas of how it should be done, and we certainly didn’t try to create a sound. The whole thing just evolved quite naturally. There will probably be a lot of Pink Floyd fans interested in what Rick had been doing, and equally I’m sure that a lot of Fashion’s followers will want to know what I’ve been up to.”
Finally Zee is getting the deluxe treatment so many other seminal back catalogue releases have had done.
The Album Is Available To pre-order from Burningshed by Clicking Here
A Statement from Dave Harris was made on the 25th January regarding all orders from Pledge Music
“ Ok it’s Friday morning 25th January 2019. I as the artist have not received any contact from Pledge Music positive or negative regarding the news that is flooding the internet and has been known I have heard for the last 10 days.
I am also in London this week (as they know) and would have been available to meet. Therefore I can only come to the conclusion that they don’t give a damm about me and my friends who want to buy the album, or they would have taken it down from sale…. so from here on I recommend anybody wanting to buy the album uses www. Burningshed.com
I cannot apologise enough for being involved in another amateur outfit, such as Pledge. Not even an email of explanation or apology…..Dave “
Happy Birthday Nick Mason
Nick Mason’s Saucerful Of Secrets – Us, Canada And UK Tour 2019
Nick Mason’s Saucerful Of Secrets, fresh from the hugely acclaimed 21-date 2018 European tour have now announced a string of concerts for North America, taking place in March/April/May/July next year, and detailed below.
The US Shows mark Nick’s first full concert performances in North America since the 1994 Pink Floyd Division Bell tour; the last time he drummed in the US was during the 2006 Roger Waters tour.
2019 Tour Dates are As Followed
March 12th – Queen Elizabeth Theatre, Vancouver, BC, Canada
March 13th – The Paramount Theatre, Seattle, WA, USA
March 15th – SF Masonic Auditorium, San Francisco, CA, USA
March 16th – The Wiltern, Los Angeles, CA, USA
March 19th – Comerica Theatre, Phoenix, AZ, USA
March 21st – Paramount Theatre, Denver, CO, USA
March 24th – The Pavilion at Toyota Music Factory, Dallas, TX, USA
March 25th – Jones Hall For The Performing Arts, Houston, TX, USA
March 27th – The Fillmore Miami Beach at Jackie Gleason Theater, Miami, FL, USA
March 29th – Tabernacle, Atlanta, GA, USA
March 31st – Stifel Theatre, St Louis, MO, USA
April 1st – The Riverside Theatre, Milwaukee, WI, USA
April 3rd – Orpheum Theatre, Minneapolis, MN, USA
April 4th – Chicago Theatre, Chicago, IL, USA
April 5th – Murat Theatre, Old National Centre, Indianapolis, IN, USA
April 7th – Palace Theatre, Columbus, OH, USA
April 8th – Akron Civic Theatre, Akron, OH, USA
April 9th – The Fillmore Detroit, Detroit, MI, USA
April 11th – Shea’s Performing Arts Center, Buffalo, NY, USA
April 12th – Toyota Oakdale Theatre, Wallingford, CT, USA
April 13th – Orpheum Theatre, Boston, MA, USA
April 15th – Salle Wilfrid-Pelletier, Place Des Arts, Montreal, QC, Canada
April 16th – Sony Centre For The Performing Arts, Toronto, ON, Canada
April 18th – Beacon Theatre, New York City, NY, USA
April 22nd – DAR Constitution Hall, Washington, DC, USA
April 29th – St David’s Hall, Cardiff, Wales
April 30th – Aylesbury Waterside Theatre, Aylesburghy, Buckinghamshire, England
May 1st – Cambridge Corn Exchange, Cambridge, England
May 3rd – Roundhouse, Camden Town, London, England
May 4th – Roundhouse, Camden Town, London, England
July 3rd – Kloster Wiblingen Ulm, Ulm, Germany
July 5th – Augusta Raurica Open Air, Augst, Switzerland
July 6th – Les Arenes De Nimes, Nimes, France
July 20th – Freilichtbuhne, Loreley, St Goarshausen, Germany
Tickets Are Available Now Through Ticketmaster by Clicking Here
Aubrey Powell : Hero of the Vinyl Era
Aubrey Powell is a hero of the vinyl era. The record covers, designed by the British photographer and his artistic partner Storm Thorgerson for Pink Floyd and other rock stars, are world famous. Still, he says, he hugged the digital world tight. For a reason.
They worked for the biggest rock stars of the seventies, including for Led Zeppelin , Paul McCartney , Peter Gabriel and The Who. Most famous is the cover of the Pink Floyd album “The Dark Side of the Moon”. Is this your favorite motif?
The cover is so well known because the album has sold 65 million copies. If it had been sold only a thousand times, it might not be that iconic. It’s not my favorite cover because it’s a graphic. I like best photographic covers, like the 1971 “The Nice” album “Elegy”. I photographed red balls in the Sahara . When I made the design The Nice keyboardist Keith Emerson showed he said, “That looks expensive.” I replied, “Yes, the record company will never pay that.” And he: “Okay. Then I’ll do it. “It was the first time anyone really believed in Hipgnosis.
Her trademark was strange, weird motives like the cow on the Pink Floyd album “Atom Heart Mother”. Where did you get your ideas from? Who inspired you?
Surrealist artists like René Magritte , Salvador Dalí , Giorgio de Chirico and Marcel Duchamp had Storm and me heavily influenced. Our cover illustrated neither the music nor the lyrics, they also had no relation to the band name or the album title. It was just plain, well thought-out pictures. They should stand for otherness and stand out in the record stores with their millions of albums. Pink Floyd loved that.
Who would you like to work for?
Bob Dylan and Bruce Springsteen , because both tell stories with their songs. Our covers also told stories.
Would you like to work for rappers or R’n’B artists today?
Yes, because I find many of their covers uninteresting. Mostly they are photographs of the musicians themselves, as was customary in the fifties. Beyoncé, Rihanna , Drake or Jay-Z do not care so much about cover design. The reason is that packaging is no longer important, because fewer and fewer people buy physical recordings, but stream or download their music. Their stage shows, on the other hand, are very artistic and elaborate.
The photographer Aubrey Powell (72) has with his partner Storm Thorgerson designed hundreds of album covers for the rock stars of the sixties, seventies and eighties. Best known is the shell of the Pink Floyd album "The Dark Side of the Moon". The psychedelic rock band was one of the main clients of their design company Hipgnosis. In addition, the two worked for, among others Paul McCartney , Led Zeppelin , Genesis, Yes and Peter Gabriel . Later, Powell shot music videos for the same artists. Most recently, the 72-year-old Briton curated the exhibition, which is still running until 10 February 2019 in the Dortmunder U "The Pink Floyd Exhibition - Their Mortal Remains ". Powell is still friends with all of the still-living Pink Floyd members.
The cover design has already lost importance: at the beginning of the eighties, when the CD and music videos came out. At that time also the history of Hipgnosis ended. Were you sad then?
Not at all. I was relieved. I wore a Hasselblad camera in front of my chest for 15 years, working everyday, all over the world. We had the heyday of the album cover, which in 1967 with “Sgt. Pepper’s “Lonely Hearts Club Band” began and ended in 1982, not only experienced, but shaped. We wanted to make films now. By coincidence, MTV started, and we saw our chance to leave the album art world. In addition: The record companies were no longer willing to spend so much money on a cover because of the punk movement. They had realized that you could have a cover for 2 pounds. In addition, the CD was introduced. Who wants to work for such a tiny format? Not me.
They say punk destroyed the budget. Curiously, they moved Sex Pistols in the same building in the Denmark Street, which included the Hipgnosis headquarters. Did you hate the band?
The Sex Pistols had their practice room there. We used the same entrance. Sometimes we heard them rehearsing. It sounded completely useless to me. We were used to working with very demanding musicians. One day I met Johnny Rotten in the hallway. He wore his famous “I hate Pink Floyd “shirt. “Why are you wearing this?” I asked him. “You are old men, you hear Crosby, Stills and Nash all day, you are finished. We are the New Wave. Watch out! “He answered. He was very aggressive. But I realized that there was a change in the air.
Could not you win punk?
Malcolm McLaren , the Sex Pistol Manager, invited me to the first concert. It should take place right across the street. “I’m not dreaming to watch a Sex Pistols gig. They are horrible, “I replied and turned down the invitation. I regret this decision until today.
Do you still listen to vinyl as a cover artist today?
I owned thousands of LPs. I sold them all. Vinyl is too complicated. I have a jukebox with singles from the sixties and seventies. Otherwise, I download my music. I hugged the digital world.
How could that happen?
Our productions were very time-consuming at that time and lasted up to six weeks. We worked without special effects. What can be seen in the pictures, there was also in reality. That was our way of working. We wanted it that way. For the cover of Pink Floyd’s album “Wish You Were Here”, we actually set one of the two businessmen on fire. Today I would add the fire with Photoshop in two hours. Same goes for movie editing. What used to take hours, now takes only seconds. Many things are faster and easier. I really hugged the digital world tight. I am up to date.
Nevertheless, you curated the Pink Floyd exhibition. You are a bit retro …
Yes. It is a retrospective. However, one purpose of the show is to make young people see how we approached things back then, how disciplined, how carefully we had to work, how long everything lasted. Today everyone wants to have everything immediately. We used to have the time to think about which picture is really the best. Our covers are not just Snapshots with the Smartphone . They are art.
WLTD. it stands out: the exhibition is not as nostalgic as one would have thought. Pink Floyd albums such as “The Wall” or “Animals” are still relevant today, in times of new walls and increasingly louder and lesser democratic extremities …
Yes, Pink Floyd metaphors like the wall or the inflatable flying pig are as meaningful today as they once were. And Roger Waters delivers strong, clear political statements to this day. He ventures far out of cover and has to be careful not to shoot at him.
Have you ever tried to prevent the Pink Floyd breakup?
I’m close to the band, I’m still their art director, I talk to them regularly. Of course I tried to repair the friendship. Roger Waters and David Gilmour are two incredibly talented and intelligent musicians. There is nothing like experiencing music together in a room. But there is a grudge, there are human tensions and political disagreements that are difficult to overcome.
As they Waters , Gilmour and Mason, to whom Pink Floyd members still live, presented your exhibition idea, were they all in one room?
No. I met everyone in person, but apart from each other. They were never in the same room. It is sad. I never say never, but I do not see them performing again.
Some exhibits from London are not featured in the Dortmunder U, the first band van and the model of Battersea Power Station. Why?
The exhibition is a bit smaller. There was not enough space. We had to leave something out.
is Dortmund at all the right place?
I originally wanted to go Berlin , preferably after Tempelhof , in the former airport building. But in whole Berlin was not a location free. Some museums are booked three, four years in advance. In Dortmund, on the other hand, was a place, and Dortmund has a Pink Floyd history. The band performed “The Wall” there on eight evenings in February 1981 – and otherwise only in Los Angeles , New York and London . Nevertheless: Berlin is a cultural center, Dortmund not. Sometimes you just do not have the choice.
Which photo session was the most elaborate or exciting?
Quite clear: the pictures for the “Animals” cover at the Battersea Power Station in London , as the inflatable pig broke free and got into the approach lane of Heathrow Airport. I stood next to this huge coal-fired power plant and looked after the pig. Never in my life have I been more afraid. I already saw ourselves responsible for one of the most terrible air catastrophes. I remember very well, like everyone else Pink Floyd in her Cars climbed and cleared and left me alone.
And then?
There were no mobile phones. I ran to the nearest phone booth and called the Police . “There’s a gigantic pig flying towards the planes,” I shouted into the phone. Pilots had already reported it. The air traffic was stopped. Two military aircraft came up to search for the pig because it was not visible on the radar. I was arrested in the meantime because, as they said, I was responsible for a UFO. Afterwards everyone believed it was a public relations stunt. But it certainly was not.
The matter went well …
Yes. At 9pm, I was back in my photo studio in the Denmark Street, the phone rang. A farmer out South England called and said, “You’re looking for a big, pink pig?” – “Yes.” – “It’s lying on my field, terrifying my cows.”
Interview Conducted By Mathias Begalke / RND for Neue Presse
Rick Wright & Dave Harris : Zee Identity 2019 – Various Formats Available For Pre-Order Now
One of the most intriguing pop music partnerships of the eighties makes it’s return – Rick Wright one of the founder members of Pink Floyd and who played keyboards on their multi-million selling albums joined forces with Dave (formerly Dee) Harris, best known to music fans as the former singer and guitarist with electro-funk band Fashion. The two, collectively known as ZEE’s version of their album, Identity is to be released this year.
The album which was recorded at Wrights ’s home studio and Utopia Studios in North London in 82 / 83, utilises the Fairlight Computer, which has the ability to recreate the sound of any musical instrument.
The new partnership was born out of a Greek holiday that Rick Wright had in 1981. It was there that he met Raf Ravenscroft the well-known saxophonist session musician whose playing graced Gerry Rafferty’s huge hit “Baker Street”.
“Raf was interested in forming a band, and we got talking in the way musicians do.” Rick said, “When we got back to England we met again, along with several other musicians, including Dave Harris. We had some rehearsal time at a studio in Battersea but we weren’t getting anywhere, mainly because no one had any material.”
At that time Dave has just left Fashion – “I supposed you could put it down to the usual ‘musical differences’ – and was looking for fresh ideas. “My decision to leave Fashion was good for both the band and myself, but I really needed to work with someone so that we could bounce ideas of each other” Dave says.
“It became more and more obvious that Rick and I would work well together, and eventually that is what happened”.
The other guys who had been initially involved understood that too, and in the end it was Rick and myself writing together. Rick and Dave started working on the ‘Identity’ album as far back as September 1982, initially at Richard’s small studio in the country, before moving on to Utopia six months later to do the overdubs.
Unfortunately certain legal problems had to be ironed out first – and then there was also the question of mastering the Fairlight:
“We spent hours and hours just experimenting with it at first” Rick recalled.
“The great thing about the Fairlight is that every time you go back to it you learn something else. We had to get control over it though because it would have been very easy just to have ended up making funny noises. We spent several weeks sequencing and scripting everything but it was all worth it in the end.”
He added “For me it is exciting working with Dave because there were things that he was doing that I had not done before and vice versa. I think that ZEE has given us musical opportunities that quite frankly neither of us were able to explore in our previous groups.”
Dave Harris says “when we started recording it, we didn’t have any pre-conceived ideas of how it should be done, and we certainly didn’t try to create a sound. The whole thing just evolved quite naturally”.
“There will probably be a lot of Pink Floyd fans interested in what Rick had been doing, and equally I’m sure that a lot of Fashion’s followers will want to know what I’ve been up to“.
Finally Zee is getting the deluxe treatment so many other seminal back catalogue releases have had done.
The album and subsequent boxsets can be pre-ordered now from Pledge Music by Clicking Here